Posts by Lee Marsh

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

Lee Marsh

Excellent EasyPrompt.

Is there somewhere that they state why they don't use the word "disfellowship" when announcing it? Instead they say something like "______ is no longer a Witness".

In reality the result is the same. The person is shunned

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A divorced single sistet

by TxNVSue2023 in

it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.

why are they dispised?

( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?

Lee Marsh

FedUp

That behavior is never ever acceptable. The one who does that is basically selling thei r body for things they want. Yuck

And lumping men into the "they marry only for sex" pigeon hole is IMO an incorrect female excuse for their actions. Men desire closeness and emotional support from their partner pretty much at the same level as a woman.

Most JWs marry young and it is for sex. For both of them. The desire for more (closeness and emotional support) often doesn't come until late when they realize that life isn't just about sex and in some case never.

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

Lee Marsh

Blondie

i’m going to try

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

Lee Marsh

Excellent images and links. They might roll thinks back in the publications but the words and meanings are still there

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

Lee Marsh

I am working on a project that requires proofs that the WTS did say it and JWs believe and follow it.

I have found some but Google is giving me a hard time with some things.

As I go I will post requests for various images. They all must have a reference or at least post where I can find the reference and I will add it to the image.

Both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.

If you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

I know there are images of the structure of the WTS. Jehovah on top and publishers on the bottom but is there one with the women and children on the bottom.
Images that show: that all people except JWs will die a horrible death; be destroyed at Armageddon, only JWs will enter paradise
DFed ones will not make it through Armageddon
DFed are "spiritually dead', "mentally diseased", unfit to associate with, etc.
Women should submit to abuse to the death if necessary to "win her husband over. Woman's responsibility to "make it work.

That is enough for now.

Thank you for any help you can give.

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A divorced single sistet

by TxNVSue2023 in

it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.

why are they dispised?

( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?

Lee Marsh

I have to wonder what was so wrong in the marriage that she had to go somewhere else.

Studies show women don't have extra-marital affairs for the sex. They want the emotional closeness and intimacy.

But a rigid system will only see the sex part and not the underlying issues. Many JW women feel alone in their marriages. Many get married for the wrong reasons and are not compatible. And if the husband has any position in the congregation then she is an emotional widow in the congregation

But always blame the woman

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A divorced single sistet

by TxNVSue2023 in

it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.

why are they dispised?

( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?

Lee Marsh

enoughisenough

exactly

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A divorced single sistet

by TxNVSue2023 in

it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.

why are they dispised?

( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?

Lee Marsh

For those who think this isn't worth discussing, I assure you the women who have experienced this or are experiencing it now, need to see they are not alone.

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A divorced single sistet

by TxNVSue2023 in

it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.

why are they dispised?

( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?

Lee Marsh

I agree with the opening statement. If a woman is already divorced before she becomes a JW then she is on a higher level of acceptance than a JW who gets divorced even if the husband was cheating.

The woman gets the blame. They believe that if she was giving him the "marital due" he would not have cheated so it is her failure. And therefore, there must be something spiritually wrong with her.

So she gets "marked"; fewer people will talk to her at the meetings, they don't socialize with her and she is often not invited to group activities like weddings and showers. They invite her out for service but that is about it.

The men on the other hand can get disfellowshipped, worm their way back in and even become elders again.

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Do we blame the Governing Body too much?

by no-zombie in

i'd like to start this post with a part from the movie 'v for vendetta'.

here in a dystopian state, the main character named v, explains why things have gone so bad ....

those who do not want us to speak.

Lee Marsh

Abusers have the power. And they choose to KEEP it.

Just because a person was a victim, and I suppose you could say they still are, they have plenty of proof that they are wrong. Franz proved it to them and they refused. We have been online proving it to them for over 40 years and still they refuse it.

They refused to accept it.
They refused to admit their error.
They refused to stop raking in the money
They refused to stop taking advantage of the people who they are supposed to be caring of.

At what point do we let abusers off the hook?